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MTN Ranger
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I created a poll on the "Fisker Ocean One Club" FB group (which has roughly half of the Ocean One order holders) and got 423 414 410 404 394 387 377 376 365 353 322 310 301 286 244 238 229 219 204 189 159 136 responses. 57% 56% 55% 54% 53% 52% 53% 52% are in March. If anyone not on Facebook wants to add their date to the list, let me know below.

(I'll update this over time)

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We have hit an 8% sampling rate, pretty good!

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Updated 10/20/22 5:40pm EDT
 

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@ttrinchi Not sure but he may have confused you with someone else


   
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Posted by: @remichex

Didn’t reserve until 04/27/22. Had been looking at EVs to purchase and while sitting in an airpot terminal waiting to switch flight to Montana I stumbled across Fisker for the first time. My wife was with me and before we boarded the flight we decided to place the $250 reservation fee. I got the invite 07/20/22. Was pretty surprised that the ONE had not sold out. Jumped on it immediately.

OMG, this I almost comical. Someone that reserved 29 months after I did, paid their deposit fee 2 weeks after I did is ahead of me and several others like me. Fisker support doesn’t care to explain nor could they care less about looking into the situation or trying to do the right thing. Scary when you think about what this could mean in term of support post delivery.


   
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drmalan
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@remichex Los Angles, I would have expected that would help secure likelihood of earlier delivery.


   
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Posted by: @old-aviator

Thanks for setting up the order information sheet

That wasn't me either.  😀

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Posted by: @mtn-ranger

@drmalan 

Sorry to hear about your situation.  I'm feeling that somehow, something got mess up.  Hopefully you will hear an answer soon from Fisker.  The theory about social influencers doesn't seem practical or reasonable to me.  I have over 1.6 million views on my YouTube channel and I don't have an early build date.

If you receive yours early, that would make complete sense. Your a market influencer and have the skill set to provide invaluable support not just for sales but also for the followers who have come to trust your insight. But majority of the people being selected for delivery in the next two months, appear to be those who reserved in late 2021 or early 2022. It makes no sense.

I have received some incredibly rude replies from Fisker but I don’t want to post because I actually want to eventually receive my car and one of the latest responses basically made it clear that I should not cause any further trouble.

“They” have not had the decency to even share their name or provide any type of information. I would’ve been completely satisfied with an apology or something like “you know what we made a mistake and we can’t fix it now but will give you preference on the selection of the model for your second reservation”. I haven’t even gotten into it but I didn’t receive an email concerning the lock in for tax reasons on my second Ocean reservation (which was made January 2022). I did send the he or she who can not be named Fisker non support by email three days before the tax loophole closed asking them to please contact me as I had difficulty completing order (later discovered due to problem with webform and Safari on IPad). They guaranteed a 24 hour or less response time as time was running out on tax credit lock in. They ended up getting back to me seven days later after my 3rd email asking for help and not only did they not apologize, They did not even answer the question I had asked, just told me that too late I missed out. It was not until four or five emails later that they finally informed me that I had been trying to complete the order utilizing my iPad and Safari and that I needed to do it through the desktop version of Safari.

I was completely cool about the situation not wanting to ruffle feathers and asked them to please at least help me lock in a sport version for my second reservation since I had already lost out on the opportunity to get the tax break locked in, I had for some reason received a build date near the end of the list despite reserving 30 months ago, and they failed to answer my emails in a timely fashion as guaranteed which was the cause of the entire issue.
Their response was basically too bad, the sports are all gone, will notify you later next year if further sport reservations become available. When I asked them to please at least talk to me in person on the phone or share their names and who I can write to to request an appeal on what was IMO a terrible injustice to a customer who was one of their earliest supporter and I was ”’warned” that I should not push the issue further.

I’m just hoping that once they open the actual center in LA with real people who can hear the entire story that at the very least I will be placed on the list for a sport for my second unit and hopefully they will evaluate what happened with people like myself who were one of the first reserve and somehow are now in the last build groups. Or maybe one of these social media influencer types will share my story with someone other than the he or she that must not be named non-support personnel.

 


   
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@drmalan: I think you have to look at the overall numbers and dates. Also, it seems the numbers in this thread have not been updated with the latest Fiskerati responses (nor FB). There is another thread with a poll developed so that the data collection would be less manual, it is called "What is your lock in date?". If you have answered that poll, you will also see the results. As of today, I see that 112 Fiskerati forum members have replied. I'll call  that a statistically relevant sample, although the collection method may not get a truly random sample.

But note that there are only 11 respondents with a date between September and November. Less than 10% get an "early" date. The vast majority (84 out of 112) are Feb 20, 2023 or later, with March being the big month (March 13 alone is 25 out of 112 responses). So, being a bit liberal with our interpretations, from this we can deduce a couple things, I think. One: Fisker expects to be cranking out cars after Feb 20, and two: your build date is essentially in the same 4-6 week period as virtually everyone else, except a small 10% group that get their cars before year end (13 of 112 or just over 10%). 

So yes, there does not appear to be a massive difference in build date results, but look at it this way: orders have been made over 4 years (Nov 2019 to today), and those get squeezed into a build chart that may be something like 8 months. With that said, I would have expected you to be in the early 20%, although not the top 10% (the first month of orders in December 2019 was the early adopters who were ready to go, and if I recall correctly, more than 500 orders came in that month ahead of your Jan 2020 date). So, I'd place your normalized date expectation around Feb 20, and you instead find yourself a few weeks later.  I think with those things in mind, it seems it isn't an exact science, but maybe we can see how you landed where you did. Sorry you are unhappy, and I fully understand, as I've been waiting a long time for this as well.

Another story to show you I fully understand: I own Fisker Karma #00007. I was the first non-employee to order a car in 2008. Production didn't start until late 2011. in front of me for delivery included Al Gore, Ray Lane, Leo DeCaprio, Henrik, and even the Prince of Denmark, etc. My car was part of the Signature 100: a special edition for the first 100 cars to be made. So imagine my surprise when, in November 2011, over 300 cars were showing up on forums and driving around towns. The company had some early issues with cars and had to withhold mine for a bit to get it fixed. Meanwhile, the production line was cranking out cars with VIN #s in the 200, 300, 400 range. I got my car on December 31, 2011. Was I mad? Yeah, a bit, because my intent was to go out and show the world this great new car. Instead, others got to give the world it's first impression, and that was a mistake. One I am certain they learned their lesson from (lesson one: don't release it until its damned good and ready). But once I got it, I didn't care any more. I still own Karma #007, and I always will. After now 12 years of ownership, it is a car I absolutely still love very time I get in it.

So, don't let this first bite spoil your taste. I hope you'll love you new Ocean, whenever it arrives.

 


   
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@simon-c Forgot to ask, maybe you already shared and I missed it, but your lock-in date (build expiration) was September 19th. Are you able to make any changes today a week after that date? What's the latest? Did Fisker send out any new emails to you about your final build details?

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@seancallahan hey - no, I cannot. Where it used to say 'Edit Build' it now says 'Build Locked'


   
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@simon-c Nice! Any new emails from Fisker about it or just the first one about the lock date?

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@seancallahan nothing new at all - not even that the build had been sent. I figure their hands are pretty full atm.


   
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@simon-c Thanks for the update, much appreciated!

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@simon-c Feel much like a canary in a coal mine yet? Seriously, super anxious to hear what your experience is being among the first in the pool.

Cheers!


   
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@beemerbum1 hahaha literally. It is great timing as I have to get rid of my current vehicle. But you know, I’ll be the one with all the early bugs. It’s a trade off.


   
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Posted by: @davecarguy

@drmalan: I think you have to look at the overall numbers and dates. Also, it seems the numbers in this thread have not been updated with the latest Fiskerati responses (nor FB).

 

I update the info every day or two.  We now have 353 total responses (from FB and this thread) with 7% of total One orders sampled.

(Updated 9/26/22 4pm EDT)

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Posted by: @davecarguy

@drmalan: I think you have to look at the overall numbers and dates. Also, it seems the numbers in this thread have not been updated with the latest Fiskerati responses (nor FB). There is another thread with a poll developed so that the data collection would be less manual, it is called "What is your lock in date?". If you have answered that poll, you will also see the results. As of today, I see that 112 Fiskerati forum members have replied. I'll call  that a statistically relevant sample, although the collection method may not get a truly random sample.

But note that there are only 11 respondents with a date between September and November. Less than 10% get an "early" date. The vast majority (84 out of 112) are Feb 20, 2023 or later, with March being the big month (March 13 alone is 25 out of 112 responses). So, being a bit liberal with our interpretations, from this we can deduce a couple things, I think. One: Fisker expects to be cranking out cars after Feb 20, and two: your build date is essentially in the same 4-6 week period as virtually everyone else, except a small 10% group that get their cars before year end (13 of 112 or just over 10%). 

So yes, there does not appear to be a massive difference in build date results, but look at it this way: orders have been made over 4 years (Nov 2019 to today), and those get squeezed into a build chart that may be something like 8 months. With that said, I would have expected you to be in the early 20%, although not the top 10% (the first month of orders in December 2019 was the early adopters who were ready to go, and if I recall correctly, more than 500 orders came in that month ahead of your Jan 2020 date). So, I'd place your normalized date expectation around Feb 20, and you instead find yourself a few weeks later.  I think with those things in mind, it seems it isn't an exact science, but maybe we can see how you landed where you did. Sorry you are unhappy, and I fully understand, as I've been waiting a long time for this as well.

Another story to show you I fully understand: I own Fisker Karma #00007. I was the first non-employee to order a car in 2008. Production didn't start until late 2011. in front of me for delivery included Al Gore, Ray Lane, Leo DeCaprio, Henrik, and even the Prince of Denmark, etc. My car was part of the Signature 100: a special edition for the first 100 cars to be made. So imagine my surprise when, in November 2011, over 300 cars were showing up on forums and driving around towns. The company had some early issues with cars and had to withhold mine for a bit to get it fixed. Meanwhile, the production line was cranking out cars with VIN #s in the 200, 300, 400 range. I got my car on December 31, 2011. Was I mad? Yeah, a bit, because my intent was to go out and show the world this great new car. Instead, others got to give the world it's first impression, and that was a mistake. One I am certain they learned their lesson from (lesson one: don't release it until its damned good and ready). But once I got it, I didn't care any more. I still own Karma #007, and I always will. After now 12 years of ownership, it is a car I absolutely still love very time I get in it.

So, don't let this first bite spoil your taste. I hope you'll love you new Ocean, whenever it arrives.

One of the most thoughtful replies I've seen in the forums to date. 👏👏👏

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