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MTN Ranger
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Instagram post today is hopefully a good sign. Will it be a pop-in shade?  Sounds like it if it is after delivery.

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Great news!! 👍👍

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@seancallahan I also asked in the Instagram thread if it’s an additional cost for Ocean One owners. No reply which leads me to believe it will be an additional cost. 🤑 

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All ocean one reservation owners bought the car blind and in good faith bases on information at the time. We were promised a solar sky roof and was a much publicised inclusion to the specification and one of the reasons I was drawn to the ocean. 

For Fisker to design and execute it in the way they have is appalling in my opinion. But if we have to pay for some bodged up aftermarket sunshade or tint that is going to reduce its efficiency then that is a right kick in the bollocks. 

FISKER .... Don't piss people off who have supported you from the very beginning and trusted you to deliver a high tech vehicle which was feature rich.  Not a vehicle with old technology, a built in disco ball in the roof and some cheap flimsy Taco trays.

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Louisville34
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DJA55 - I totally agree!  This is Fisker’s problem to fix and not with some half assed post-delivery solution.


   
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And I’m also not sure why Fisker Ocean One reservation holders who have not locked in their builds can’t be given the option of electing the OpenSky roof as an option in exchange for a reduction in price. . .

 

I live in NJ - so not as much “bang for the buck” with a solar roof in any event.


   
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@louisville34 hell, i’ll take same price if i can swap out for open sky instead.

Will I get my Fisker One delivered before my VW needs its 100K service?? The race is on..
and…… will we still get the $7500 tax credit? Only HF knows…


   
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@SeaPhil - I just think it’s fair for Fisker to reduce the price, if you take some “premium” option like the SolarSky roof away.  Though at this point I agree with you - I would pay the same price to not ride around in a “clown car” with weird shadows all over the interior or effectively no outside view. . .


   
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I hate to laugh but this feels like we have come full circle on the solar sky roof since last year. To summarize:

  • The solar sky creates little useful energy from a range perspective
  • It is quasi useful to minimize the impact of vampire drain when parked for long periods (e.g. an airport)
  • It is mostly a "cool" design choice just like in the Karma
  • Looks nice from the outside but is crappy from the inside
  • Made worse by the checkerboard shadows
  • Most people would prefer to go with open sky instead but there is no option
  • If the cost were lower by a few thousand $ there would be a stampede away from solar sky

So we are back where we started. Feels like we need a poll! 🙂 


   
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Louisville34
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I’m not on social media but does anyone know how to contact Fisker directly (and actually get a response) to put the OpenSky roof as a build “option” for those of us who have not yet locked in our Fisker Ocean One builds yet?  My final build lock date is February 27, 2023, so time is of the essence from a timing perspective on my side.  The thought of using some crappy sun shade or just tinting over the shadows is not going to cut it from my perspective.


   
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@bayoubob I replied to that poll before realizing it was for One buyers only, don't see any way to un-do my vote.  May I suggest widening the poll to include those with confirmed Extreme orders?   Given the latest Tesla pricing I'd think Fisker will see the most order loss among Extreme buyers, whose revenue stream is important this year.   Reducing the cost of the Extreme by making SolarSky an option would be one way to show that they're both listening and competing.


   
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Posted by: @carlh

@bayoubob I replied to that poll before realizing it was for One buyers only, don't see any way to un-do my vote.  May I suggest widening the poll to include those with confirmed Extreme orders?   Given the latest Tesla pricing I'd think Fisker will see the most order loss among Extreme buyers, whose revenue stream is important this year.   Reducing the cost of the Extreme by making SolarSky an option would be one way to show that they're both listening and competing.

Done! And Sorry for wrong name on the Open Sky

 


   
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So, can we start to pick and choose what features we don’t want and demand a reduction in price? I live in CA - so not much “bang for the buck” for the heat pump.  Ocean One reservation holders who have not locked in their builds should be given the option of electing heat pump delete as an option in exchange for a reduction in price.

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Louisville34
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This point is not about regional / climate differences, it’s about Fisker not fully thinking through the design of a key aspect of the car in the first place.  Most people don’t want weird, grid patterned shadows traveling all over the interior of their car on a sunny day from the SolarSky rooof.  Fisker’s post-delivery “solutions” (e.g. tinting, removable shade) also don’t adequately address the specific problem from my perspective.  However, either a permanent, factory installed retractable roof shade or the option to elect the OpenSky roof would adequately address the specific problem with the SolarSky roof from my perspective.


   
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CarlH
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No reason this has to be seen as a slippery slope by making one significant-cost feature with minimal benefits a delete-for-credit option.   The heat pump vs. Solarsky comparison is very much apples and oranges:

  • The heat pump can have an impact on range in cold weather.  SolarSky, not so much.
  • The heat pump extends battery useful life, as it is in the loop for maintaining battery temperature, which prefers neither too cold nor too hot.   SolarSky, not so much.
  • No one is generally concerned about the heat pump's inclusion, nor likely to be annoyed by it on sunny days.  Or cloudy days.

Making SolarSky an optional feature on the Extreme and offering a credit to build a One without it is a win-win for Fisker.   It gives them a chance to respond to Tesla's price reductions with their own reduction (of sorts) on vehicles that most will receive in 2023.    More than likely any refund or price-reduction offered will be less than the extra cost of SolarSky parts, giving Fisker some relief when it comes to inflation-related higher costs to produce the vehicle.


   
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