Fisker Ocean One charge at home requirements

@jayraonc that's great point, i have not thought about that. Especially as winters get longer i might have to consider doing it before i receive the vehicle. One thing to consider is Fisker is partnering with Electrify america to even add home installation to be part of the vehicle package i believe but the time will tell. If you want to get headstart https://www.electrifyhome.com/homestation would be good start i believe.

Hello fellow North Carolinian! I'm also in North Carolina (Durham) and we currently have a VW ID.4 EV. We are using a ChargePoint Home Flex charger for home charging and it is great. Here's the product link:

https://www.chargepoint.com/drivers/home/chargepoint-home-flex

There are some things to know about level-2 home chargers. One of the most important aspects to consider is what their output power rating is, expressed in Kilowatts (kW), and determines how quickly the vehicle can charge. That number is directly tied to the Amp rating. Our charger has an amp rating from 16 to 50 amps, depending on the size of the circuit that its connected to. I installed a dedicated 70 amp circuit, which means that the charger can use the full 50 amp capacity, and that corresponds to a 12 kW of charging rate to the car. Our ID.4 has a max charging rate of 11 kW, so our charger provides enough power to max out the charging rate of the car. If we would have gotten a 32 amp charger, the output power is only around 7.2 kW (or so), which is MUCH less than the maximum capacity of the ID.4, which means that it would charge FAR slower. The Fisker Ocean also has an 11 kW charging rate. Most of the 40 amp chargers max at around 7.7 or 7.8 kW. Again, those are FAR below the charging rate capacity of our car and it would charge much slower than it could with a higher capacity charger.

So things that you need to be aware of:

Q: What capacity circuit do I need in my house to handle whichever charger I choose?
A: First of all, circuit output does not equal the power rating of the charger. A 50 amp circuit will only handle a charger with output capacity of 40 amps. You need at least a 70 amp circuit for a 50 amp charger. A 40 amp circuit will allow 32 amp charger, etc.

Q: What is the max charging rate of the Fisker Ocean?
A: The Fisker Ocean has a max charging rate of 11 kW (as currently published).

Q: Do I need to max out my charging rate (11 kW) or can I use a lower powered charger at a slower charging rate?
A: This depends on you and your needs. If you want the fastest possible charging at home, then choose a charger that can charge at 11 kW or higher. (this means choosing a 50 amp charger) If you don't drive much and don't really care about slower charging speeds at home, then you can choose ANY charger of ANY power capacity. The lower the number, the slower it will charge your car.

Q: Does the charger have to be hardwired or can I plug it into an appropriate outlet?
A: An electrician can correct me here if I'm wrong, but my research discovered that a load of 40 amps is the maximum that the US national electric code allows for plug in appliances. That means that if you have a 50 amp circuit, which provides a maximum of 40 amps to the charger, then you can be plugged into an appropriate outlet. If you have a 60 to 80 amp circuit for higher charging rates, then it MUST be hardwired. Either way, you're probably going to need to hire an electrician.

Hopefully this information has been helpful.

I have an electrician coming to wire in the 14-50 outlet for my garage.  I was originally going to go with a hard wired at-home unit like the Electrify Home unit posted above by OceaninIowa, but after asking around it seems the mobile/portable chargers are the way to go for several reasons.

1. It's mobile.  You can take it with you to your AirBnB or relatives' house and using an adapter, plug it into a 110V outlet.

2. They're half the price.

3. It plugs right into a nema 14-50 outlet and supports Level 2 charging.

My 2 cents.

@goofypiano Yeah I would go this route too. can use any 240 outlet this way.

Lots of folks have a 14-50 outlet already near or in their garage for a washer/drier, etc. This product looks interesting too if you are one of those people.

https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/ACB593B4-9199-45BF-A3B0-C0AD5D6CA0D1?ingress=3&maas=maas_adg_6D8F1F974CBE7F29437B4A19FC17FDFE_afap_abs&ref_=aa_maas&tag=maas&gclid=Cj0KCQjwz96WBhC8ARIsAATR252AwZUcoVsAgYJY09SeHgqOhji32tw8-5aGaXe1rgMy9PGKYw2rogEaAl0pEALw_wcB

I had an electrician in for something a month ago and we talked about installing the 240V outlet, but he suggested I wait to see what is needed for powerhouse functionality and do it all at once.  So something to consider for some

@tony_in_dnc Thank you Tony. This information is quite detailed and helpful

Posted by: @goofypiano

I have an electrician coming to wire in the 14-50 outlet for my garage.  I was originally going to go with a hard wired at-home unit like the Electrify Home unit posted above by OceaninIowa, but after asking around it seems the mobile/portable chargers are the way to go for several reasons.

1. It's mobile.  You can take it with you to your AirBnB or relatives' house and using an adapter, plug it into a 110V outlet.

2. They're half the price.

3. It plugs right into a nema 14-50 outlet and supports Level 2 charging.

My 2 cents.

+100 on this. Been there and done that. I have a (completely dead) hardwired Blink Charger in my garage from 2011. I also have a hardwired AeroVironent charger from 2011 (still working fine, use it every day). After the Blink died I had the electrician disconnect it and install a 14-50 plug ($300 I believe). Then I just plugged in my Tesla Mobile Charger (best one on the market but only works with Tesla). It charges the Tesla at 32 Amps while the hardwired one only manages 30 Amps. Each are wired to a 50 Amp breaker. 

Here is if other thing I learned the hard way: when the charger dies (it will sooner or later), with a mobile charger you just unplug it and get a new one shipped from Amazon for next day. If your hardwired charger dies you are calling an electrician, you are down for days / weeks, and it will cost a lot more. 

As for how much capacity you need, well that is up to you, but over the past 11 years I have learned that a NEMA 14-50 is honestly much more than we need. It is exceptionally rare that we will arrive back home with less than 10% charge. It is even rarer (never happened) that we need to charge the car to more than 80% before the next morning. So as a rule of thumb, I recommend a circuit that will get you 70% capacity added over 10 - 12 hours. That takes car of even our most extreme needs. And should you really, really arrive at home with 8% charge and need to turn around an hour later and drive another 200 miles, well that is what DCFC is for. 

Of course, all of that goes out the window if you are using your Ocean as a home backup power system. But that is a different story for a different thread. 

Noting my comments above were WAY too Longwinded! My 2 cents:

• get the electrician to install a NEMA 14-50 plug in your garage

• locate it at a central location where it can easily reach more than one vehicle with a 25 ft cord

• Mount it at least 3 feet above the floor (trust me on that).

• Buy a garden hose reel holder from home depot for under $10 to loop your extra cord.

Congratulations, you now have the most effective and flexible EV charging setup on the market. 

If your breaker box cannot handle a 50 amp circuit then do all of the above with a NEMA 10-30 (dryer plug). 

This link from Tesla is super helpful IMO. The Ocean should add miles at a rate somewhere between what is shown here just between the 3 and S. This chart shows you how many miles per hour you will get on each different type of plug.

https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/mobile-connector

I would like to get my hands on a gen 2 Tesla wall charger with 24ft cable.  Cables for 100Amp are already ran like 5 yrs ago when i was supposed to get a Tesla.  Now just waiting on spec from Fisker to finalize the charger installation.

We're in Wilmington NC and notice charging stations are very few and very far.

While pre-ordering the ONE we noticed Fisker will be offering an at home charge station which you can add to the cost (unless mistaken and cost dependant).

It looks like out here it's home charging or nothing, at least for now.

@bayoubob I am thankful to you and Tony for a detailed information. At least I know now that I need a NEMA 14-50 outlet in the garage and possibly a plug-in charger. Since I am in Triangle NC, I do have many charging stations meanwhile. I will wait for 2 months to see what Fisker does with these pre-orders. 

I never gamble and looks like I did with my pre-order deposit of $5,000. Hoping my trust in Fisker pans out. I do want Fisker to succeed. People on Reddit are discussing that this is Bankruptcy#2 for Fisker as they are struggling to reach 5,000 and running close to 50,000 reservations.

@jayraonc Where in NC?  I live in Raleigh, if you want to see my garage setup.

Posted by: @bayoubob

Noting my comments above were WAY too Longwinded! My 2 cents:

• get the electrician to install a NEMA 14-50 plug in your garage

• locate it at a central location where it can easily reach more than one vehicle with a 25 ft cord

• Mount it at least 3 feet above the floor (trust me on that).

• Buy a garden hose reel holder from home depot for under $10 to loop your extra cord.

Congratulations, you now have the most effective and flexible EV charging setup on the market. 

If your breaker box cannot handle a 50 amp circuit then do all of the above with a NEMA 10-30 (dryer plug). 

 

This link from Tesla is super helpful IMO. The Ocean should add miles at a rate somewhere between what is shown here just between the 3 and S. This chart shows you how many miles per hour you will get on each different type of plug.

https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/mobile-connector

 

Yes, those are good recommendations.  I installed two NEMA 14-50 outlets in my garage.  After a while, I noticed I hardly ever need to charge over 24 Amp.  I downrated one of the outlets to a NEMA 14-30 with a 30A breaker and it works fine for me.  Most EVs will easily charge overnight on 24 Amp.  I usually charge twice a week.

@mtn-ranger I live in Morrisville. Not that far from Raleigh. Thanks for the offer to checkout your garage layout. I may take up on it. ?.

I checked my main circuit breaker box and it looks to be 200 amps. That means I can install 70 amps sub panel for Fisker charger outlet to handle full 50 amps?