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May 24, 2023 9:51 am
So we currently have 2 cars and one of them is a 2012 Prius V, which is on its last legs. Pre-covid i had an alfa romeo guilia which was great but since i wasn't going into to work anymore it didn't make sense to have 3 cars, so i returned it after the lease. Alfa was a great performance and loved driving it. Now for the last 2 years driving the old prius with no juice is no fun. After doing a lot of research i put a deposit for the ocean a year ago thinking of getting the ULTRA as it gave the most bang for $. Wife has been constantly talking about getting another car as the prius had a head gasket leak which was band aid fixed with a sealer. My Bro bought a Model Y when prices dropped and its not bad. Looked at the Mustang Mach-E GT yesterday which has similar specs to the ULTRA buts it over 61K. Interior is definitely better (Ocean using recycled materials obv can't compete). With the delays, and if prius dies i will have no choice but to get another vehicle. Comon Henrick, lets get things rolling.
Competitors
MY performance comparable $55K - 7.5K rebate; MY everywhere you look in SOCAL
Ocean with my specs ~$56K - hopefully grandfathered in and full $7.5K
Mach E GT $61K only 270 range. only $3.75K rebate
For the $, ULTRA still on top for me. Anybody else in the same boat, where circumstances might not allow them to wait much longer, if deliveries don't start soon. I was hoping Nov for ULTRA deliveries, but that doesn't look to optimistic. Most likely 2024 now.
May 24, 2023 10:57 am
You are right, I wouldn't expect an Ultra until 2024. Also you will only get the full 7500k rebate if you lease just a FYI. Anything else will depend on what your current fed tax liability is and is considered a tax credit which is different than a rebate. As an example, if your tax liability is $5000 and you only had $5000 withheld, then you would get $5000 back, not $7500, so don't be fooled into thinking you'll get $7500 back.
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May 24, 2023 11:23 am
Just priced a lyriq with AWD which has similar specs (ie 500 hp) and its over $65K
May 24, 2023 2:14 pm
@tosk - I was in a similar situation – needing a car right now, I looked at various alternatives and after watching/reading some glowing reviews, went for a year-old BMW i4 eDrive 40 from a BMW dealer. Well pleased with it. The interior, the build quality, the range, and the ride is amazing (that the BMWs are known for - 'a driver's car'). Everyone has different preferences, but it's worth looking in to.
They have put me in the waitlist for Ocean One.
Hoping to get one :)
May 24, 2023 3:13 pm
nobody wants to hear this, but model Y is the best bang for your buck and its available
May 24, 2023 3:18 pm
nobody wants to hear this, but model Y is the best bang for your buck and its available
Correct, no other car will offer so many problems for your buck!
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May 24, 2023 3:25 pm
Known and unknown quality issues aside, I just like the look of the Ocean way more than the MY or any other SUV for that matter. It is worth paying a little premium to get what I want and like.
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May 24, 2023 4:08 pm
I confess that I am smitten with the Rivian R1S. We have one quad motor LR on order under the old pricing (will cost $78.5k with colors and options and $71k after tax credit). We have a second one on reservation which I would spec with dual motor long range 340 miles for $85.7k (no tax credit). The first one we are getting it for sure. The second one is a completely stupid purchase when we could have an Ocean One for $61.5k after the tax credit, but man I really like the Rivian.
May 24, 2023 4:19 pm
nobody wants to hear this, but model Y is the best bang for your buck and its available
Y is an outstanding value - there is a reason it is literally the most popular car in the world. That said, it has its strengths and weaknesses like every car and its bang-for-buck quotient depends on how you individually value various aspects of "bang" and the "buck" part depends very much on your personal situation (tax credit eligibility, country, etc.).
May 24, 2023 4:42 pm
@tesla4now and I am stating why MY isn't my back up, or any other SUV currently available. As to what would be - probably stay out of the market for now til something that does strike me comes along.
May 24, 2023 6:52 pm
@silvernort yeah my bad, I think I got my topics mixed up. I can understand your view on the subject
May 24, 2023 7:23 pm
Trading from my 2008 Chevy Malibu LTZ (purchased new) which has no issues, is a great commuter and roadtrip car (113mph top speed):
Before I was able to get on the ONE list and the US IRA tax law, my backup was a Kia EV6.
Then as my commute is short, my backup last year before the SOP was a used 2017+ Chevy Volt.
After SOP my backup became a Used ICE and wait three years for the EV market to mature.
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May 24, 2023 8:00 pm
My MY lease runs out the end of the year but I don't think my Ultra order will be ready by then. So I can either extend the lease by another year or look for a 1 year stop gap. Maybe I'll check out the Ariya or bZ4X or Ioniq.
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