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(@dornbrook)
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I was a pre-IPO investor in Fisker and one perk was getting a free Fisker car. My Ocean One Limited Edition goes into manufacturing next week. My needs have changed and I don't intend to keep the car. I'm in the Boston area, but I suspect I could have Fisker deliver it elsewhere. Let me know if you are interested in acquiring it.


   
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(@seancallahan)
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@dornbrook What is your asking price?

Check out the latest episode of All-Things Fisker.

🌊 Ocean One #0469 | Night Drive | Black Abyss Plus | 22” F3b SlipStreams


   
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(@seasalter)
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@dornbrook and how did you configure it?

Ocean Sport | Great White | 20" wheels | Ordered 8/7/22 | rebate eligible...


   
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@seancallahan I was hoping to get as close to Fisker's list price as possible. I realize there's some downside to purchasing from me rather than from them, but there's also potentially some premium for the fact that this is such a limited edition that isn't available from them (one sold at a charity auction for $170K, for instance).

I don't yet have all the complications of this thought out. For instance, can I talk Fisker into simply shifting who they deliver to, or do I have to take delivery, register it, pay sales taxes, ..., only for the next buyer to have to do the same? And is there any warranty impact? I'm assuming the EV tax credits probably won't apply to most folks who can afford the car, since there's an income limit ($150K individual, $300K for a couple), but if this is treated as "used" the price point won't qualify.

I'll certainly be reasonable about taking all of this into account.


   
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@seasalter I chose Horizon Gray, Maliblu interior, 20" F7 AeroStealth wheels. I could still change this over the next 4 days if folks here think a different configuration would be highly preferred.


   
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(@seancallahan)
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@dornbrook Thanks for sharing. You definitely can’t transfer your reservation, but nothings says you can’t sell your Ocean after taking delivery. Don’t expect to get help from Fisker with delivering your car to someone else. Personally, that’s probably a non-starter. If you really don’t want to keep your car, my thought is Black Abyss Plus is the safer resale option compared to MaliBlu. I’m happy to run an experiment by holding an auction for your car on Fiskerati as long as some of the proceeds are donated to a charity. If interested please reach out by email to figure out all of the details.

Check out the latest episode of All-Things Fisker.

🌊 Ocean One #0469 | Night Drive | Black Abyss Plus | 22” F3b SlipStreams


   
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(@dornbrook)
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@seancallahan What's your email address?


   
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(@seancallahan)
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@dornbrook Visit the contact page.

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🌊 Ocean One #0469 | Night Drive | Black Abyss Plus | 22” F3b SlipStreams


   
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@dornbrook For what it is worth I would suggest the the bigger wheels


   
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@dornbrook If you max out on the options (Big Sur Blue, 22 wheels, Maliblu), probably there will be more than a few Extreme reservation holders if you're selling it at or below Ocean One price, even if they are to lose out on the tax credit.


   
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@dornbrook I am likely in same situation on the resell and I am locking on Monday. FWIW, here are my thoughts:

I am buying a configuration that I would personally like, but which I believe will also sell well. I have narrowed to BSB/Black Abyss / F3 black wheels or Mariana / Sea Salt / F5 silver. Those are both high-spec combinations that I would personally like. In the XT, these are priced at $77.5k and $76.1k respectively. (I think that the blue interior is more polarizing and would limit my resale market.) I will likely go with the Mariana since that is what I personally prefer and there is still a small chance I will end up keeping it. 

With respect to resale, my price including tax, docs, destination, etc. is $76,335 according to the Fisker Calculator. If the buyer pays Texas sales tax it will cost a total of $81,296. The same extreme (Mariana etc.) will cost $83,818 all in. So, in a nutshell, I should be able to recover my full out-of-pocket cost and still give someone a good deal. I can also give someone a few thousand dollar additional discount to split the tax credit if necessary. I expect to sell at a price sufficient to avoid a loss and maybe even come out a tiny bit ahead. But I think it is important to spec the vehicle with relatively high-end options to achieve that. Just MHO. 


   
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@bayoubob Thanks for the great advice!


   
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@bayoubob 

I'm probably going to be selling mine as well but wondering about that and taking the tax credit.

One of the stipulations for receiving the tax credit is that the car is "not for resale". So if we take delivery and then sell the car with one mile on the odometer I don't think that's going to fly.

So the question is how long to wait to avoid suspicion. Maybe a month with several hundred miles driven and then say I don't like it and changed my mind? Just don't want to run afoul of the IRS. 

Anyway if I get the tax credit and sell the car for what I paid for it I will be a happy camper. Wasn't looking forward to eating that $5000, lol. 


   
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@bayoubob 

I'm probably going to be selling mine as well but wondering about that and taking the tax credit.

One of the stipulations for receiving the tax credit is that the car is "not for resale". So if we take delivery and then sell the car with one mile on the odometer I don't think that's going to fly.

So the question is how long to wait to avoid suspicion. Maybe a month with several hundred miles driven and then say I don't like it and changed my mind? Just don't want to run afoul of the IRS. 

Anyway if I get the tax credit and sell the car for what I paid for it I will be a happy camper. Wasn't looking forward to eating that $5000, lol. 

That stipulation has been around since I did my first EV tax credit in 2011.  It's very hard to prove that you bought it just for resale (unless these forums can be used as proof!). You can always say you intended to keep it, but situations changed between the time of ordering and delivery.  I've been following EV forums for over over fifteen years and never heard of a case of this happening.  

 

Fisker Ocean One #2185 | Mariana | MaliBlu | 22” F5 Black AirGliders | 7/9/22 Order | 3/13/23 Lock
2018 Tesla Model 3 LR RWD | 2020 Volvo XC60 Inscription | 2015 Nissan Murano SL | 2012 Chevy Volt (no longer own)
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Posted by: @dornbrook

@seasalter I chose Horizon Gray, Maliblu interior, 20" F7 AeroStealth wheels. I could still change this over the next 4 days if folks here think a different configuration would be highly preferred.

I think that's a good choice for broad appeal.  The only thing I would substitute would be for the F5 AirGlider Black if you want a higher amount for the resale. I think the F3 is more polarizing of a design.  On the other hand, the F7 probably would be the more popular wheel choice.  I did a poll in the FB Fisker Ocean Enthusiasts group and got this result.

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It's hard to say if people are making their choice based on appearance, efficiency, price or all of the above.

 

Fisker Ocean One #2185 | Mariana | MaliBlu | 22” F5 Black AirGliders | 7/9/22 Order | 3/13/23 Lock
2018 Tesla Model 3 LR RWD | 2020 Volvo XC60 Inscription | 2015 Nissan Murano SL | 2012 Chevy Volt (no longer own)
Stock ownership disclosure: Long positions on FSR, QS, RIVN, SLDP, TSLA


   
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